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our guys it's time for you said it i read it right take time to respond to my brilliance and engaging viewer comments from facebook twitter and you tube because we've got some to say i listen now first i want to respond to a viewer the watched our interview with reddit co-founder alexis ohanian about the free internet act as a reddit user generated idea in response to pip and so but alex wolff five said on you tube ordinary people drafting laws next thing you know they'll be expecting a democratically elected representative government i know it does seem insane doesn't it the people who actually use the internet know how it works might be consulted on legislation about it now one thing's for sure the reddit community certainly wasn't consulted on sopa and pipa not to mention that many of the biggest tech firms either now became very clear the internet users and those who really understand how the internet works were consulted and the congressmen themselves all they got some serious shortcomings about knowing what this technology stuff is all about they just took whatever the m.p.a.

had ari said and they ran with it and as for this reddit experiment while the community isn't made up of experienced law drafters it will be interesting to see if they can influence what actually makes it to the books next i want to respond to brian penny who tweeted about how he saw us on mainstream t.v. he said let's gloss over how i happened upon it leno used a clip from the yellow to show on tonight's the tonight show. don't worry i'm not going to judge you for watching leno's show we all have our vices i'm more partial to say tosh point handler but to each his own i do have to say it was kind of fun to have a clip played on such a popular program even if i was talking about a penis tattoo and now finally i want to respond to a viewer that watched my main stream miss yesterday i heard earlier this week on leon panetta statements about the rights of terrorists alan bigger tweeted to us the m.s.m. piece on leon panetta was really good your team put together a very helpful fact based argument so thank you for the positive feedback i do put a lot of time and work into the open of this show every night and so i'm glad to

hear you are convinced that's it my ranting tonight but i will be back with more as usual next week. well this week we saw president obama hold a google plus hangout where thinkable happened he answered a question about the drone program and assured americans that it's both on a tight leash and that civilian casualties are not as high as we all think of course what he says and what the reality may be could be starkly different as just of the cia doesn't release any data on its drone program but the a.c.l.u. is in fact now suing the u.s. government under a freedom of information act to get information about the government's targeted killing program specifically focusing on drone strikes last year that killed three american citizens including anwar locky but should organizations like the a.c.l.u. take it one step further reading the new york times this monday march canis was one of the authors of an op ed the push for human rights organizations to start using drones for surveillance specifically using the example of syria they argue that if human rights organizations can spy on evil they show it to now we have to ask

should they join me to discuss that is mark canis founder of the genocide intervention network and scott horton contributing editor on legal and national security matters for harper's magazine and i want to thank you both for joining us tonight and mark i'm to start with you just start by telling us why it is that you think that human rights organizations should use drones human rights organizations use people to monitor human rights violations we either get visas and do it with the permission of governments were sometimes they sneak in and go in there without governments knowing in eastern burma for example lots of people are being killed there we've got human rights monitors there so the technology of drones it's cheaper it's more available and you don't have to put why is there a risk why not use technology to further advance what people already doing and allow people to see more the force from the trees than ever before and let's not forget that when we say cheaper we still mean about a couple hundred thousand dollars right now they're not millions anymore but they're getting deeper but i think that you know and scott i want you to chime in

here too does when this bring up a number of very big legal issues. oh of course i mean you know we see that right now with the cia and the state department operating room programs with flights over iraq which new york times tells us in the future story yesterday is arousing all sorts of concerns there and was fun too but i think the big question is who's operating the drone you know i i frankly think you know the population on the ground to be delighted to see human rights organizations out there monitoring things but i think you've got to expect the syrians wouldn't want this they do everything they can to block it but the bottom line is i think mark is right with this initiative it's a good one and it's something that should be pursued. but i mean let's bring up another issue here too right we not only have the question of national sovereignty and human rights organizations also aren't state actors and personally i can't name

a single government you just want to talk about syria i can't name a single government that would be ok with. human rights organization flying a drone over their airspace but there's also this idea that something that we hold dear here in the u.s. and cherish which is privacy do you know it's nice to say that oh it's just the a.c.l.u. they only have good intentions in mind but do you think about what bothers some people but the combination of things that sometimes get brought in group together unfortunately is we're not talking about non armed non-lethal drones so this is basically like having a camera which we all do with our cell phones or with other digital cameras and human rights organizers both local and international are using cameras all the time and we're not crying privacy violations we actually want that footage to expose the human rights violations journalists are having a hard time getting access in places like darfur like syria so these are things that people actually want and it's no different than strapping a camera onto remote control plane and people aren't crying evasion of privacy they're actually saying we want more of that stuff happening well that's not exactly the case here in the u.s. are you seeing law enforcement start to use drones that they were of wanted to at

the republican national convention also have some drones but they decided that maybe they'd scratch him because of his cue expensive you know personally i don't find that all that comforting well our argument is to do it in areas of large scale massive human rights violations in the areas of genocide or crimes against humanity in war crimes and so there are questions certainly with civil liberties and privacy argument is we're focusing on these areas where sometimes getting footage is hard or sometimes it's able to get it done but you can see the huge force for the trees and we should be able to have that access and make sure you can and it's testimony as evidence to the national courts you are provided to the media and you can provide it to government officials to hold them accountable just like we do with many other times with regular cameras well who's to say to you that let's say that the international criminal court of the u.n. might have. four days right or some of this video who's to say that they're going to do the right thing that they're going to act on it. when they might not do it

right what about i want to come back to one of the points marc just discussed i made you're out on the streets of london you're being observed in films all the tyrant if you're walking around a major american city you're also being monitored all time so i think this means the privacy expert stations have gone down somewhat the biggest argument we're hearing in the office issued into this sort of building in the united states actually comes from what we saw they were objected very aggressively to being photographed. and yet the process of photographic and filming their activities has been very very important if we look at what happened at some of the occupy wall street protests for instance the bill on the. new york police captain became an international celebrity when he was still so i think this shows really the process of documentation get help and of course your point is true that is you can't expect that there's an incident being filmed it's going to go straight to the

i.c.c. and reserved to the prosecution but i think we've seen the human rights community. has learned agents of this process and they learn about documenting things thoroughly and rigorously now can we do accountability far down the line that may take years it may take days but ultimately if you talk to say you have to for there to have the photographs you have the other evidence accountability can occur i think the point is technology can be used for bad or for good the worst thing there's no silver bullet catalyst to use drones to add to the toolbox of holding people actually make this happen right how do you get who do when you buy the drawing from where do you get the permission from to do it because i'm sure that not only will certain governments be unhappy with it because it's violating their sovereignty at the same. i think it really put government on the spot if you want to say well now it's even more obvious than it was before that you are acting because of geopolitical interests rather than humanitarian ones sure so there's

a variety of ways you can do it you can literally strap camera onto a remote control plane have local populations fly that and get that documentation and find a way to upload it onto you tube and they do this all the time in syria with the regular cell phones so that's the cheapest way you can do it there are other ways that you can get more developed countries that are that how the technologies are willing to sell its commercially and then you can buy that and you can hand it over to those human rights groups or you can have foreigners human rights organizations others pilot those so the most expensive is what we're use with lethal means we use satellite platforms to operate pilots operating in nevada flying drones in pakistan or iraq so you can go from this cheap as strapping on a can run through a plane to having satellite technology and finding this the whole range is available what we're arguing is let's explore that and let's do it responsibly ethically let's not shy away from drones being used as an effective means to hold people accountable for massive human rights violations you know what kind of responses are you getting from other human rights organizations we're going to mix

a mixture of responses a lot of the same questions about sovereignty about violating national international law to other saying we love this idea we're doing this already using cell phones and cameras we would like to talk more about the information you have the response you're getting so we're actually trying to gin up more interest to actually see if this is possible and then find what conflict area might not work in syria it might not work in congo bit maybe burma maybe dar for so we're ready to explore what are the best options and see if we can get a proof of concept and then say let's let the u.n. maybe the u.n. should own its own drones and be able to do this and they'll hold themselves accountable just like they use international law for other things and you know it's interesting because we have seen you mention of course scott that it was the police that really didn't like this and the fact that now we have so much citizen journalism going on and somewhere in europe and now blanking out where it was we did see a little mini self-made drone in poland. happens and they thought let's also monitor our protests you can see how the police are responding i want to switch gears really quick lastly and just end on what the president said this week which is he

publicly decided to address the problem the drone program in his google plus hangout but he said don't worry it's on a tight leash and the casualties of civilians are not half as bad as you think when you think of that i think it's absolutely the case that the cia it's telling him that the casualties are not as bad as the press is reporting and that's the reason why i think the seal you was done the right thing for doing those documents and demanding their release so we can see exactly what the cia is telling the president about all this because all of us tell you i've read a lot of independent investigations and i don't have a high level off with and and those cia reports their reports on the ground in pakistan do point to a very high level of collateral damage it's true that they're they're getting there they're improving their process and they're reducing the number of innocent civilians who killed but it's still troubling and i think the president may

very well be misled by them. i think the best thing is for the jurisdiction to pass over from the cia to the departed. are transparent figures i'm not really sure if i buy it that the president is being misled either but you know i mean the questions are never ending unless we actually do see some kind of documentation john i want to thank you both for joining us tonight scott mark thanks so much thank you. colorado state lawmaker in a situation after he gets pulled over by the time out of a happy hour ladies are sweating bullets after a recall been issued on some birth control pills and. twitter's footsteps when it comes to country by country censorship explain away from the. substance. of the touch like

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the news today is once again. these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. joint operations room. hi guys it's time for tonight's tool time award and tonight the winner is colorado state representative laura bradford c. bradford was pulled over last week suspected of drunk driving but instead of being booked in charge like the rest of us mere mortals she was let off scot free by the police officers and not because she miraculously passed a sobriety test or was a drunken up murdering you see she even admitted to drinking herself but she was

let go by police officers because she specifically mentioned that she was coming from a legislative function see part of colorado's constitution says that during a legislative session except for cases of treason or a felony legislators cannot be arrested during attendance at the session or committee meetings or going to and from such sessions which brings us back to bradford i stated that i was leaving a legislative function that i was on my way home. and that i was expected to be at the capitol the next day to work my statements were not intended to invoke legislative privilege. though is a major coincidence that she said the exact right words needed to invoke this obscure law now as to which legislative event she was at plus she wouldn't say. can you say what legislative function you are coming from i have nothing further to add sources say they saw bradford drinking at the prohibition bar at seven o'clock that

evening and that it was not a legislative function. the road had bishan bart now bradford's whereas up and down that she did not invoke legislative immunity but she definitely made sure the officers knew where she was coming from she also made sure not to waive her legislative immunity because you see if she had she would have been subjected to sobriety tests just like the rest of us but i guess that she had been reading on the special privileges granted to her in the colorado constitution like being able to endanger the lives of other people in colorado by driving drunk and just a side note here she also had a gun in the car which would have been a misdemeanor offense had she been under the influence now denver police have since apologized for what they characterize as special treatment for the lawmaker and she's been suspended from her committee chairmanship since seems about right to me clearly this law was not intended to let lawmakers get plastered of political events and then get off scot free but leave it to them to use it that way and for the police to allow it one set of rules for elected officials and another for all

the rest of us so for embracing that very undemocratic ideal or was that of laura bradford is tonight's tool time winner. ok guy the time for happy hour joining me this evening is our producer jenny churchill and mike riggs associate editor at reason magazine and reason dot com hey guys we're going good. ok we have a spoke about last week or was it earlier this week and where do you totally losing it but anyway twitter decided to change its censorship policy and a lot of people were upset about it. it was an important tool in the arab spring uprising now twitter has changed its technology so it can censor messages on a country by country basis. well turns out that somebody is following in their

footsteps or maybe not exactly google is now has announced changes to its blogger free blogging platform so they're going to name a blocking in blocking of content only in certain countries where censorship is required and it hearns out that they did this like three weeks ago four weeks ago and they just didn't tell anybody until some blogger actually found it in their policy surprise google was being sneaky again i don't know why this sort of seems like the cost of doing business in foreign countries my my outrage is just totally exhausted on all the stuff you know of the obama administration selling arms deals to bahrain and syria. on the sly and it's like i'm just exhausted with being outraged about this you know so but there's so much to be outraged about there is there's like tons but i mean it's sort of what do we call what do we do i mean do we like stop trade with these countries altogether i mean if google doesn't adhere to these policies they can operate all of these you know autocratic places so i

mean i think that this becomes one of those arguments you know you ask well is is this better than them just kind of you know unilaterally censoring things well i think that's the wrong question i think that when we're in a situation where we have to look at things as well this level of censoring is actually better than the other level of censoring we have a problem what i do there's a lot of nuance to this and we you know we talked about the twitter story the first time around too we mentioned that and so i think i have the right idea with twitter and what they've applied is that they're asking people that as soon as you see one of your tweets censored you know take it to this web site so they can post it and make it public and so people are at least aware of what's going on but i don't know it's a do you play along with the game or into you to you know it's the debate now to talk about something that is really messed up and outrageous and. we had just a million women all over the country crying today. blame it on the packaging it could leave women with an inadequate dose of the drug raising the risk for pregnancy it affects about one million packets in the u.s.

pfizer says the pills may contain and not not enough contraceptive to prevent pregnancy. it's just the most messed up thing i mean on the planet there's a million packets of birth control out there with all these pills right and you're taking it and you think you're doing the right thing and to how many babies are going to be accidently can sound like a prude but there still is one form of birth control this one hundred percent effective ladies oh my goodness i'm not going to say i was like you know if you're going to say ok i think you're going to try to come on our knowing. this is the most effect that's abstinence. what i'm super excited for is when the class action lawsuit comes and the ads are everywhere going with your gift from god a mistake well you. know. i don't well about the sad thing is that you know that there is a bunch of you know anti birth control people out there that are pro-life that is.

my first thought was was this really an accident or an act of pro life terrorism there. are. going to give. that we get thrown around a lot. let's this is just quite interesting you know what do you do if you're really really rich old guy and you want to make sure that your money goes to a certain person and i guess you don't then take a look at it. good when also facing a civil lawsuit from the victim's parents and some court observers say that adopting his girlfriend who's forty two on the surface appears to be an effort to hide some of his assets. that's right he has officially adopted his forty two year old girlfriend as his daughter which inched entitles her to one third of the trust that he set up for his two biological children. and who are clearly awful awful i mean like how bad you have to be as

a child to force your father to adopt is not necessarily you know what. older men could be susceptible to younger attractive with. hands that are being made and there was your wish in your you know you know what if i want you maybe the kid said maybe it's the evil step mom. that's very very disappointed it's clear we have a child so when i was really really. i mean one day i had to have mail the next day and anti-woman you can't make up your mind i just mind. i don't even know anymore i must i just find this really interesting because i think this adds kind of like a new level to the whole incest thing like we were in and saw us before. in a weird way we kind of are you have all my money i don't know it's weird well yeah i mean now kids can really happen to them legally because they're still sleeping with each other because i just all i know is what i want for ever refer to this is a reverse woody allen. where i mean honestly this guy got the order right ok right

sleep with her then adopt or not you know don't adopt they're going to think you're going to actually going when you're order matter it's absolutely does and that's a perfect just like with not example you know. i think you order newt gingrich is that we can p.d. of somebody do a little messing with the day order to more accurately reflect his marriages so first one to cancer thank you one for people to be a swinger calista returned to mars or two thousand and twelve return of mars i mean it's pretty good it's really pretty good but it's somebody pretty awful i just want to know what it is like what it is just enough cancer you know i mean too much cancer is pretty funny but let's just say no you would you are you would want it was actually cures so much as newt gingrich how little cancer could you have had you would have stayed with i think what you just the lymph nodes you know the zero

he's a purist yeah i think that we really are clearly i listened to our last story here when. it is just even so much better so there are six people that are facing racketeering charges for operating what federal authorities say are was a four million dollars prostitution ring right here in the d.c. area and they also committed money laundering and used violence to run this business and. so what little name that came up as one of the people charged with two counts in running this prostitution ring jenny you never told us well i mean i have to say one day it just came to me and i thought you know why get a mail order russian bride when i have all these beautiful russians right here you know obviously that's not me here which one of hers really says is yours yeah right i heard that you are actually you mad i have my own man and. you know but it was actually super awkward because i was getting legitimate questions from people about whether or not that was enough. for you and what we want you want to register

a little right we're going to what do you think my we saw earlier isn't that isn't that what russian script is called sort of like the sort of my we sorry every time i go mad if there is ever again. the fans the fans are going to come out against you again. my concern is fans get mad when a donor anyways let's wrap this over again or trouble thank you for joining me tonight that's it for tonight's show thanks for tuning in ad make you come back tomorrow brewer from vision strategy is going to join us for happy hour in the meantime don't forget to become a fan of the ellen show on facebook you can follow us on twitter if there's anything you ever miss you can catch it on youtube dot com slash the arsenal and up next. old means of protection can be used. when global supremacy is at stake.

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a group of basically retired military we love to shoot holes and i'm sorry if you know that the bullet comes out here and this makes it go bang and if what's in front of here is going to die that's all the training you really really need raise your hand if you know something's been shot ok but to live with one of the philadelphia horns over streets. until about a hopefully we will never have to use the weapons for self defense but we should be prepared the full class including the teacher i think was. seventeen students. and one of seven or still.